Blaze at Dreamchasers...We all need to help the horses at Dreamchasers. Please help us SPEAK UP FOR THE HORSES!
We are asking all Shiloh supporters and horse lovers in Las Vegas, in Pahrump, anywhere in NV, anywhere in the country to:
Call the Nye County Animal Control- Tim McCarty (775) 751-6315. They have already had numerous calls and Shiloh spoke to Tim this morning and are pressing the AC to do something.
Call the Nevada SPCA 702-873-7722 to report Dreamchaser's abuse and neglect.
Call the Humane Society of the United States (202) 452-1100.
Robin, Daria, Sandi, and Sharil- we need you all to write statements for the AC stating- the date you were at dreamchasers, what you observed, the horses' conditions, what questions you asked and what answers you were given. You can email them to Shiloh at shilohhorse@aol.com. We are trying to set up a meeting next week with the AC to discuss this.
The five horses that we rescued yesterday will be checked over by our vet and she will also give us statements as to their conditions.
This is Blaze, the emaciated gelding that we were supposed to have been able to take, but who we had to leave behind even after begging, pleading and offering to buy him. Blaze is suffering from what we think are stomach ulcers and cribs continually on the barbed wire itself. Not a scrap of food anywhere to be seen. He does get tied to the barbed wire when he finally gets to eat.
21 comments:
Oh my goodness I just looked at their website and just about all of the horse are starved to death! That is just horrible! I hope they get shut down!!
Too bad people like you only post part of the info, just enough to twist things your way. He had been finishing his grass hay when you arrived late, right in feeding time again, which had to be held off so as not to stop in the middle while you were there since not enough volunteers there to continue the feeding like the day before. Yes he cribs and he wears a muzzle normally to prevent it when not eating, but as he was finishing part when you got there and had not gotten the rest yet b/c you delayed feeding by being late he didn't have the rest of his feed yet. Also you didn't see him upon arrival to know what he looked like before. He has improved. Also talking with a vet about him, the vet said it was very likely not ulcers. You just jump on people without even seeing the horses when they come in as most donated are severley underweight and have medical conditions.
The condition of the horses as a whole speaks for itself. You can make all the excuses you want for individuals but NONE of those horses is in GOOD condition and several of them are SERIOUSLY UNDERWEIGHT or APPEAR TO BE STARVING. I am overseas so I am not sure what I can do as an individual to help, but I can certainly speak out against someone trying to make pathetic excuses for the inexcusable. This is not a situation that can be allowed to continue. Animals are suffering and will die if nothing is done.
Delayed feeding?? Uummmmm ..... you had Shiloh people there offering to help so why not ask them to help with feeding?? They have arms/hands, they can move hay, surely. Or am I missing something here??
Knowledge should not be your log on name since you do not have any knowledge.
Finishing his grassy hay? You are such a pathic liar. There is'nt an ounce of grassy hay anywhere on that property and Shiloh did'nt arrived late.Feeding at 12noon, once a day? I am sure you meant to say that feeding at 12noon is late!!! Those horses should have been feed in the am not at noon. You didnt feed the horses until 1pm the day before, whats the excuse now? Enough volunteers? You and your minyun should have done it!!That horse would not have been alive now if came to your hell hole like that. Since Stephanie was taking pix as we were leaving then i am sure you have before and after pix. right? Put your money where your mouth is or should i say put your foot in your mouth again!!! Twist the info? Just look at your web page. Enough said. You creepy hoader
Go get 'em Shiloh. Thank you for your commitment and perseverance.
Talking to a vet, shouldn't that horse have been seen by a vet?? People like who, people like Shiloh have that saved horse from sure death, by feeding them, getting them the proper vet care, loving them, wanting the best for them!!! Why didn't you let Shiloh take the other horses, if you care so much, it is obvious Shiloh can take care of them and give them the care they need, and simple as it is YOU CANNOT! Have a heart and let Shiloh help those horses!!!
Late? LATE???? Jill told you we were going to be there at 10:30. I looked at the time when we arrived. It was 10:38. I'd hardly call that late. And when we arrived, NOTHING was going on, much less feeding. Finishing his grass hay? HARDLY! There wasn't a sliver of hay in that paddock. In fact, there wasn't anything edible in ANY paddock when we got there, and no sign of anybody about to do anything about it. Daria, Sharil and I would have been THRILLED to have helped feed if we'd been asked or if there'd been anything around to give them. Don't talk to me about twisting things our way, That seems to be your specialty, "Knowledge."
Well Hi All !! Did my chores at shiloh today and checked on the new guys and they had lots of hay and treats this morning Hell they even had some mints after breakfast. All I can say is the New guys were having a HAYDAY AND ARE HAPPY TO BE IN THE BEST HOME SHILOH WE CARE
Shiloh never bothered to offer to help feed either day. Had only talked to vet because explaining the situation and condition of the horse and what he does the vet said ulcers wasn't a problem and he didn't need to be seen. Even vet books say that what he does are not sighns of an ulcer. As for Shiloh offering to help, the only offer was to take horse, not help with chores, feeding, vet, more feed or anything. Even when asked for suggestions they never really said anything that wasn't already known, considered, and either been done or ruled out for reasons. We will be posting beforer and after pics of horses. The clock was 11:30 on my cell when Shiloh arrived and since people were waiting to feed after the confusion they had been cleaning pens and when your trailer was seen they put the stuff away so it wouldn't be in the way for horses or people. The horses are fed an average of 20 lbs of feed a day. As for feed on the property you were shown first thing the all the grain and alfalfal pellets and where they were stored, there were also the large 1200 lb bag of cubes from Two Hawks right there; 2 full ones, 1 patial one, and 2 empty ones that had already been fed from. There was also a giant bale of grass hay right there in the front when you walked in that was partially used, and there are some normal 100 lb bales of grass hay in the back, so as for not seeing any food then you are either lying or blind!!!!!!!!!
Wow, knowledge, the pictures of the five that Shiloh got from the other "rescue" don't lie, now do they?
As far as to how much an animal has improved, well it would be great to see the before and after pictures.
It will be interesting to see how the five that Shiloh were able to get will improve, I'm sure they will keep us updated with before AND during AND after pictures.
Re:UN-knowledge, I am not going to particpate in your little he said, she said games. I will say one thing tho, I even asked Diane if we could call a vet right then and there, and the answer was "I have to talk to the board of directors"!!
Diane-You are now making those horses pay the ultimate price!!
Everybody knows you are not doing the right thing.
Those pictures on your web site speak a THOUSAND words.
Board of directors from WHERE I wonder? You are not a 501 c3 and were busted for using a 501c3 that was not yours.
Im confused to why you stop feeding and cleaning stalls just because Shiloh had arrived ??? Sounds to me like KNOWLEDGE cant multi-task.OH maybe KNOWLEDGE is a NO- KNOWLEDGE . AS far as 1200lb of cubes that would'nt even feed the Homeless for a day !!! Hmmm the 5 at Shiloh are having a HAYDAY , they are sheltered ,blanketed and most of all are getting special care and lots of Love SHILOH ROCKS!!!
What is sad about all of this are the horses who are suffering!Shiloh will gladly take any and all the horses,even offered to pay for them yet no sale.What is the problem?If DreamChasers really cares for the horses let them go to Shiloh where the resources exist to get the help they need.Another thing I don't understand,if DreamChasers is a rescue,why do they breed those needy horses to sell the babies to fund the facility???It's adding to the horse population. That is really sad!The breeders need help desperately too, poor things!!!
all the horses on there site even the "for sale" ones look to be in a sad sorry state not only are they underweight there dirty with tangled manes and in general look uncared for
SHAME on you dreamchaser calling urselves a horse rescue when your really adding to the amount of uncared horses shiloh takes under its wing you should do the right thing and give shiloh the rest of your horses you dont deserve to have them!
TO KNOWLEDGE:
I rescue horses out here on the East Coast and work closely with Shiloh; they run an amazing program and conduct themselves with the utmost professionalism. What you are saying is simply beyond belief or possibilty.
You should be ashamed of yourself and relinquish them to Shiloh who will take care of them properly. You appear the classic textbook description of a hoarder.
I have taken it upon myself to send your site around to other knowledgable horse people and they all have the reaction. SHOCK.
I will do what I can out here to make sure you are shut down or at the very, very, very least seriously regulated.
You make a mockery of all of us who work our asses off to save horses. Your operation is a joke and you disgust me.
Jo Deibel
Angel Acres Horse Haven Rescue, Inc.
To Jo....
You go girl!!! your description of this person is right on target. those poor horse on her site... we need to rescue horses from a rescue???... disgusting....and the ones she uses as breeders are starving and have hunchbacks, why are we breeding horses in those conditions, have you looked at them??? and then they are being bred to reproduce... would you buy one of their babies???? NO!!!!.... why is a rescue also a breeder??? please tell me this lady will be shut down and ALL the horses confiscated from her property.... I can't stand to look at them starving any longer....
I volunteer at a rescue and if you arrived while I was getting ready to feed, I would tell you to HELP or WAIT.... I surely would not make the horses wait!
(Have you tried to work with a horse that knows breakfast is coming????)
Yea!!! I feed cubes and its funny when they know you are comming, they get real excited and ya really get to know their personality?? ITS g great Feeling
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